Discussion of Y-DNA Results for Descendants of
James and Lucinda Ivy of Jasper County, MS
This pictorial representation of the Y-DNA results for descendents of James and Lucinda is intended to show how the Y-DNA markers can change between different generations. It displays results to date for 7 generations of the family for which the earliest research shows them in Jasper Co, MS, from about 1832 to about 1858. It is part of a continuing research effort to determine the father of this James. Based upon the current Y-DNA results it appears most probable that the father was from the same line of Ivey/Ivys from Marlboro Co, SC as that of James and Joseph as discussed by Robert Baird at http://www.genfiles.com/ivey/TwoInterestingLines.htm and Paul Heinegg at http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/Ivey_Jasper.htm.
It is unclear at this time as to whether the speculation by Paul Heinegg that these James and Joseph were sons of Thomas of Bladen Co, NC, but the current Y-DNA evidence suggests (weakly) that they were more remotely related to this Thomas.
It also appears likely that the father of this James of Jasper Co was the James Ivy who appears in the 1816 MS Territorial Census, the 1820 Covington Co MS Federal Census, and the 1830 Jones Co MS Federal Census (listed as Joy in some indexes). All three of these locations for this James were most likely the same physical location with the names changing as a result of the reorganization of counties by the state of Mississippi.
See http://www.n2genealogy.com/mississippi/.
The family of James and Lucinda is listed in the 1840 Federal Census for Jasper County with James as head of household. In the 1850 Federal Census for Jasper County Lucinda is listed as head of household with James missing. In the 1860 Federal Census for Winn Parish, LA, Lucinda is again listed as head of household with son Albert in the next household married to Emily Redd. Albert and Emily had one daughter and a single son James Albert who was born in 1862 shortly after his father Albert died in the Civil War.
James Albert Ivy had sons Alfred Columbus and Ira Dell by his first wife Angelina Maria Honey. After her death, he married Luiza (Lou) Holmes and had five sons and two daughters. Alfred Columbus and three of his half-brothers Rollie Roe, Bee Barnabee, and James Albert Jr. are represented in the Y-DNA. In the pictorial representation of the Y-DNA results, the names of the current Y-DNA participants are included in boxes such as:
The Y-DNA markers which have changed from one generation to the next are shown as:
In some cases it is not yet clear exactly when the change occurred between father and sons. For those cases the Y-DNA markers are shown with an asterisk as:
As an example, it is not clear whether the marker change DYS576 occurred between Alfred Columbus Ivey and his son Alfred Howard, or between Alfred Howard and his son Jerry Lee. We know that the change could not have occurred sooner than between Alfred Columbus and Alfred Howard, because the change was not passed to a second son Nathan. To determine this it would be necessary to test other brothers of Jerry Lee or the sons of these brothers (nephews of Jerry Lee).
The complete set of Y-DNA markers can be seen in the project results at http://www.jlivey.com/dna/Haplogroup-E1b1a-DNA-67.htm under the groups listed as E1b1a-6a/b/c.
It is intended that this type of presentation be expanded to earlier generations as more participants join who have more detailed family histories. In theory this could be expanded to cover up to the first of the Ivey/Ivie/Ivys who "acquired" the E1b1a Haplogroup. For more discussion of the Ivey/Ivie/Ivy E1b1a Haplogroup, see Haplogroup-E1b1a.